2.22.2010

Tech: Pedals (2nd update)


Here's an update to the previous post. This is the setup I used to record Rosetta's new full-length, A Determinism of Morality, with a few tweaks. I'm touring with it now. It gets rid of the rack unit without any loss in functionality --- the RV-3 fills in, and now I use the DC-3 to add modulation on that wash effect, all of it fade-able via the volume pedal. I can patch other effects onto that loop with the patch bay.

EDIT 12/2010: I've moved the Digital Dimension off the board and now use it for Temet Nosce.

I'm using the Memory Toy (love this pedal) where my DD-6 used to be, to thicken up the standard delay on Loop B. The LPB-1 replaced my Boss Compressor, to boost clean tapping parts and to add some dirt when hard strumming on the clean channel. I don't use it when the amp is on either of the gain channels.

The Sonic Research ST-200 is by far the best guitar tuner I've ever used, stompbox or otherwise. Highly recommended.

Below you can see the family shot. The board to the upper right is the Valve Junior board, with stereo delay + tube booster + reverb + volume pedal. Earlier effects are mono. The upper left board is for the Model T, with a TS-808 knockoff by NuX (very good!) and the 10-band EQ, both for different levels of boost. That amp is pretty unruly without varying boosts to tighten things up.


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12 Comments:

Blogger Unknown said...

Are you using the line selector as a mixer, or are you actually switching between the two loops? Also, what mode do you use on the RV-3?

3/06/2010 2:32 AM  
Blogger M. Weed said...

I switch between both loops on and both loops off. The volume pedal allows me to fade loop A in and out (I never use it by itself, only as wash on top of loop B).

3/06/2010 11:08 AM  
Anonymous Can said...

Post-Rock/Metal/etc. = Boss RV-3

Welcome home Matt Boy. I hope you can also tap tempo the memory boy thing one day...

I'm dying to listen the song called AYIL by the way. Literally I can die to listen it.

3/18/2010 6:40 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

wich type of cable/plugs do you use for conecting your pedals?i recently constructed my one pedalboard. when i punch in the high gain channel i always have a humming at the background.do you might know what could be the cause for this?you would help me a lot,thanks

3/30/2010 4:59 PM  
Blogger M. Weed said...

My cables are pretty normal cheap stuff. In my experience, humming usually has to do with the power supply the pedals use. The Furman board above has a built in 9V supply that is very quiet. A lot of people like the 1-Spot adapter, but I think they are fairly noisy and their current capacity is on the low side.

3/31/2010 8:29 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

yes i chekked out the furman board,but i'm from belgium and we power electric devices with 220v.i notice that you feed some pedals with your line selector,any remarkes on that?it's just very enoying when i play live.on the clean and crunch channel it's pretty ok but on the gain channel i can't stand it.sometimes i even think it's an amp issue but i don't have the propper knowledge about these things to be certain about something.is it better that i get rid of the 1-spot and feed my pedals with the boss line selector or tuner or noise surpressor?

4/04/2010 9:58 PM  
Blogger M. Weed said...

Well it's pretty normal for there to be some noise on a high gain channel. Try plugging the guitar straight into the amp. If there's less noise, then you know the noise is coming from the pedals. If the noise is the same as with pedals attached, then it's the amp and not your pedals.

If the noise is the pedals, it's probably the power supply. Check out the Voodoo Labs Pedal Power supply, I think it has a EU voltage option.

Feeding the pedals from a Boss pass-through pedal won't do anything. The in and out jacks are just connected together, there's no extra filtering or regulation in there. It might as well be a patch cable. I do it because I have too many pedals for the available 9V outlets on my board.

Boss pedals have internal regulators for themselves, and as such are more tolerant of poor power than other types of pedals. But it's still always better to have good clean power.

Whether it's the pedals or the amp that's making the noise, you could maybe benefit from a good noise gate, like the ISP Decimator, which can be used in the FX loop of the amp, or in front.

4/05/2010 11:48 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

hi matt,

I was just wondering what about each of the pedals you like and what they are used for in your setup. I have also recently acquired a memory toy as a 2nd delay and have been having a lot of fun with it. Are these pedals stock or modified? I'm mainly curious about the Memory Toy, apparently it's quite popular to mod them to reduce the modulation effect.

4/11/2010 4:15 AM  
Blogger M. Weed said...

Hey Karl,

The only pedals on the main board that are modded are the Memory Toy and LPB-1. Even so, the Memory Toy isn't even really modded so much as "adjusted". I did find the mod depth a bit too much, so I opened up the pedal and adjusted the trim pot that controls it. I also lightly adjusted the bias controls and the feedback to get the pedal to oscillate when the feedback control is at max.

The LPB-1 is arranged so that the volume control is on the output, not on the input, which means that turning down the volume does not clean up the pedal. I changed some resistor values in it to lower the gain of the transistor, so that I could get a clean sound while tapping, but a crunchy sound while picking hard. I use it for tapping boost, and in certain songs when I want a nasty driven rhythm sound.

4/19/2010 4:22 PM  
Anonymous Brandon said...

Hey Matt, do you achieve the wash effect or ambient parts by using both delays at once? I am very curious on what effects you use to achieve that effect. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

4/21/2010 4:48 PM  
Blogger M. Weed said...

Brandon,

For wash parts, there are actually 3 delays. The main delay and the Memory Toy are both on (Loop B), and I fade in Loop A with the RV-3 in long delay/reverb mode (mix & FB @ 100%/95%). It takes all the attack off the notes and lets me strum and make the ambient sounds, without audible "repeating" from the delay units.

4/26/2010 11:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey. i just fell over this post. good to follow these nerd talks..im totally into also ;)
concerning the memory toy bias stuff. how to adjust them? im not into that at all. the mod dephts is not hard to find (even i dont use the mod at the toy) but i really struggle with the sound the toy produces when you put feedback to max..it just ends after a bunch of seconds in a noise equal to the errorsound of a modem in 1990. ;)
yoschi

10/22/2011 6:58 AM  

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